He's talking, of course, of the responsibility all of us bear for the climate crisis, the subject of his book TO REACH THE SPRING. And he relates this long-term danger to our present experience with the pandemic.
Nathaniel's portion begins at 1:17:29. Some other snippets:
- "The heating of the earth is going to create more pandemic diseases."
- "You can see the ways in which the male ego gets in the way of making policy."
- "I think it's possible for us to get it … that we're in this together."
- "Ordering from Uber Eats a bag of fries - we're all complicit.… [Yet] most human beings are part of the capital system as victims."
- "We have known, more than previous generations … in detail … that we are the killer here [of the Earth], also that we are the victim.… And yet we go on, sort of blindly."
- "This is a book about thinking about how to think about this issue."
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